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March 17th, 2012

GENEGRA FOR SALE, I'll get to the new iPad review soon, but before that, I just wanted to say a few things about Apple and Foxconn.

It turns out, according to new reports today, that most of the outrageous abuses people have believed about Apple have been largely fabricated.

Now, GENEGRA over the counter, over the past several months, there has been a great deal of attention focused on Foxconn, a contractor for many electronics firms, including Apple. It started with what was reported to be a cluster of suicides a few years ago. People were outraged; surely this was a result of oppressive conditions at the plant, GENEGRA long term, an impression fueled by the general image of Asian factories being inhumane sweatshops with workplace conditions right out of the industrial-revolution era.

Added to that was a case of “Apple Outrage,” generally resentment from detractors of Apple, who, annoyed by the computer giant's good press, enjoy jumping on any of its faults, GENEGRA FOR SALE. The story was further driven by a media which loved the ironic contrast of the popular consumer-friendly company, run by a supposedly spiritually-tuned Steve Jobs, hiding potentially dark, Where can i buy GENEGRA online, cruel secrets.

In short, it got attention. At the time, the suicide “cluster” was more easily explained; on the story, I wrote:

Since then, GENEGRA images, there has been a lot of focus on Foxconn and suicides. Many are reporting a “cluster” of suicides, insinuating that Apple’s secretive nature is somehow linked to an oppressive work environment at the contractor. Note this Huffington Post article GENEGRA FOR SALE, titled “Apple Supplier Foxconn Reports Eighth Suicide THIS YEAR,” with “THIS YEAR” in all caps, as if it is a shocking number. That sets the tone for the article, GENEGRA canada, mexico, india, which, typical for articles like this, otherwise insinuates a shadowy, oppressive, iron-fisted horror chamber with Apple somehow tied in.

Terrible, GENEGRA trusted pharmacy reviews, right. Apple’s policies are killing these poor, oppressed workers, we’re led to believe. Is GENEGRA addictive, Except that, as stated above, Apple is just one of their clients; why put “Apple Supplier” at the start of the headline. And in fact, instead of the suicides being a sign of terrible stress, the opposite may actually be true, GENEGRA FOR SALE. A few more responsible writers actually looked at the larger context and applied the Chinese national suicide rate–13.0 per 100,000 for men, 14.9 for women–and found that for the 300, no prescription GENEGRA online,000 workers at Foxconn’s Shenzhen plant, there should be between 39 and 43 suicides per year. So by now, by mid-year, GENEGRA pics, we should have seen about 20 suicides at the plant so far. Instead there have been 8. In that context, one can hardly make an argument about workers being horribly oppressed.

So the attention is not new--but it did flare recently. GENEGRA FOR SALE, One thing that made it flare up were visuals--Foxconn installed nets to deter people from jumping off the tops of buildings, adding to the false impression that it was practically raining employees. More irony, with art this time--the media loved it, where can i cheapest GENEGRA online.

But another thing that made people irate were the reports of horrible abuses. There's a guy named Mike Daisey who does a stage show called The Agony and the Ecstasy of Steve Jobs, who re-ignited the controversy by reporting on his trip to China, where he claims to have met with workers and saw first-hand the crippling effects of employer abuse--this is from Ed Schultz's show:

SCHULTZ: We are joined tonight Mike Daisey. GENEGRA no rx, Great to have you with us. His monologue called “The Agony and The Ecstasy of Steve Jobs.” And it's performed at the public theater in New York City, GENEGRA FOR SALE. For 18 months you have been doing this, 19 cities across the world. First of all, I'm intrigued, congratulations, buying GENEGRA online over the counter. I have not seen your performance, but you come to us tonight with absolute rave reviews. I've talked to people who have seen you. GENEGRA FOR SALE, And you just sit down at the desk and you tell it like it is about what you saw in China. And I'm intrigued what motivated you to do that. Online buying GENEGRA, DAISEY: I have always loved technology. I have loved Apple, actually. I loved the devices. And I knew a lot about them, because I'm kind of a tech geek that way, GENEGRA FOR SALE. I realized on day that I didn't actually know -- I knew how to take my computer apart, but I didn't know how it had actually been made, GENEGRA maximum dosage. And I started researching it. And a lot of these stories that are coming out now, human rights groups have been reporting on them for the better part of a decade. So none of this is actually controversial. GENEGRA FOR SALE, This is actually how things are done across the electronics industry. Rx free GENEGRA, So I felt compelled to go to China and actually dig in the story.

SCHULTZ: And you went there in 2010, correct.

DAISEY: Yes.

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DAISEY: I saw all the things that everyone has been reporting on, buy cheap GENEGRA no rx. I saw under-age workers. I talked to workers who were 13, 14, 15 years old. Order GENEGRA no prescription, I met people whose hands have been destroyed from doing the same motion again and again on the line, carpal tunnel on a scale we can hardly imagine. GENEGRA FOR SALE, SCHULTZ: Making Apple products.

DAISEY: Yes. And making products across the electronics industry. All our electronics are made in this fashion.

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SCHULTZ: What do these people get paid in China to do this, GENEGRA FOR SALE. What does Apple pay them. I mean, this is all about cheap labor, isn't it. GENEGRA steet value, DAISEY: It is. Cheap labor is the engine that fuels this entire enterprise. GENEGRA FOR SALE, It should be said that there is a different standard of living. And it's one of the reasons that all this industry goes to the area. That said, it's still true that the amount people are being paid is low enough that they feel like they need to work that incredibly excessive amount of overtime. And then they're practically required to do it until they drive themselves into the ground.

Daisey went all over the media, GENEGRA forum, spreading this story. Telling people about how workers were being crippled regularly because of the unsafe conditions, driven into the ground by forced shifts lasting more than a day. He told of one worker who, while Daisey was in China, worked a 34 hour shift until he died, GENEGRA FOR SALE. He painted a picture where people were being driven to kill themselves over the horrific conditions. Online buying GENEGRA hcl, This created a furor, sparking protests against Apple. However, it didn't exactly ring true to me, mostly for the same reason the suicide story did not. I not only remembered that, GENEGRA gel, ointment, cream, pill, spray, continuous-release, extended-release, but I also remember two times in my own experience where there were union actions against different places where I worked, and the claims made by disgruntled workers were, for the most part, a concoction of wild accusations, Cheap GENEGRA, specious rumors, and speculation based upon the worst imagined conditions, but then expressed as the gospel truth. GENEGRA FOR SALE, The kernel of truth tends to get buried beneath all of the hyperbole. So I know that things can get distorted even more than Steve Jobs himself was capable of.

In addition, Apple has not been--contrary to rumor--either complicit in nor apathetic about such matters, japan, craiglist, ebay, overseas, paypal. For years, Apple has performed their own checks on contractors to make sure they are not committing worker abuses, and they have made these reports public, even though they are often used to unfairly vilify Apple. Discount GENEGRA, This also irritated me about Daisey's claims--he said that he was glad that Apple is “actually starting to react,” when it had been working to stem any such abuses for years, a fact Daisey either didn't know about or didn't care to look up.

When a co-worker brought up these issues with me and asked my opinion (knowing my affinity for Apple products), I said what I felt: that probably Apple was taking advantage of cheap labor and that the workload and conditions would be ones we ourselves would not enjoy… but that most of the accusations being made were likely not true, GENEGRA FOR SALE. I figured that this guy Daisey was predisposed to believe the worst, took at face value everything that he was told--and then exaggerated further for effect, being so passionate about it, real brand GENEGRA online.

What I did not know is what was just revealed by a journalist, who, with the producer of This American Life, confronted Daisey on his reports. Comprar en línea GENEGRA, comprar GENEGRA baratos, The show that broadcast Daisey's account has now retracted their episode because Daisey was making most of this crap up:

Cathy Lee, Daisey’s translator in Shenzhen, was with Daisey at this meeting in Shenzhen. I met her in the exact place she took Daisey—the gates of Foxconn. GENEGRA FOR SALE, So I asked her: “Did you meet people who fit this description?”

“No,” she said.

“So there was nobody who said they were poisoned by hexane?” I continued.

Lee’s answer was the same: “No, GENEGRA dosage. Nobody mentioned the Hexane.”

I pressed Cathy to confirm other key details that Daisey reported. Did the guards have guns when you came here with Mike Daisey. With each question I got the same answer from Lee, GENEGRA FOR SALE. “No,” or “This is not true.”

Daisey claims he met underage workers at Foxconn. Buy generic GENEGRA, He says he talked to a man whose hand was twisted into a claw from making iPads. He describes visiting factory dorm rooms with beds stacked to the ceiling. But Cathy says none of this happened.

When confronted with all of this, Daisey pulled a Limbaugh, claiming to be an entertainer and not a journalist:
“Look. GENEGRA FOR SALE, I’m not going to say that I didn’t take a few shortcuts in my passion to be heard. But I stand behind the work, buy GENEGRA online no prescription,” Daisey said. “My mistake, the mistake I truly regret, is that I had it on your show as journalism. GENEGRA without prescription, And it’s not journalism. It’s theater.”
Yes, I am sure that he regrets it now that he is completely disgraced. I am sure that he did not make the rather cold calculation that if he presented it as “theater,” then he would not have received a millionth of the attention that he did, GENEGRA FOR SALE.

And I am sure we can take him at his word now, when he tells us that he “stands behind his work.” A galling claim, considering how much he lied, GENEGRA coupon, and in the midst of that lying, he accused Apple of dishonestly influencing a labor group who were investigating the Foxconn plant.

Worse, calling it “theater” when he made the direct claim, After GENEGRA, on news shows, not at all “in character,” after having been introduced as “telling it like it is,” as a factual report of what he personally saw… that's not theater, that is out-and-out fraud.

How did he defend that, GENEGRA no prescription. Like this:

Rob Schmitz: Cathy says you did not talk to workers who were poisoned with hexane. GENEGRA FOR SALE, Mike Daisey: That’s correct.

RS: So you lied about that. That wasn’t what you saw.

MD: I wouldn’t express it that way. GENEGRA alternatives, RS: How would you express it.

MD: I would say that I wanted to tell a story that captured the totality of my trip, GENEGRA FOR SALE.

Ira Glass: Did you meet workers like that. Or did you just read about the issue.

MD: I met workers in, um, Hong Kong, going to Apple protests who had not been poisoned by hexane but had known people who had been, and it was a constant conversation among those workers.

IG: So you didn’t meet an actual worker who’d been poisoned by hexane.

MD: That’s correct.

GENEGRA FOR SALE, So he meets some disgruntled workers who tell second-hand tales about people they heard about who were poisoned by chemicals, and believes that it is OK to represent this by telling that he himself saw these people firsthand.

Frankly, Apple should sue the crap out of this liar and give every penny he dishonestly earned spreading those lies to Foxconn employees.

Because, in the end, this is not about Apple using Foxconn workers for they enrichment--it was Daisey who was doing exactly that. He used them to sell his one-man show, to gain fame and fortune.

Once again, this does not mean that there are none or never have been any abuses. There may be--but we don't know. Apple may be bullshitting us as badly as Daisey was--but we have no evidence to support that, GENEGRA FOR SALE. Workers at Foxconn may be abused and oppressed--but we have nothing but rumors, mostly now discredited thanks to Daisey, to back up that suspicion.

Foxconn could just as well be what they present themselves as being--an above-average workplace for China, treating its workers as well as can be expected, in conditions that the workers find appealing enough to apply for jobs in massive numbers. Again, we just don't know for sure. There's no convincing evidence either way.

So take it for what you will.


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  1. kensensei
    March 18th, 2012 at 00:54 | #1

    Admittedly, a lot of us were compelled by Daisy’s “theatrical” approach to journalism. It is clear by reading Schmitz’ article that Daisy fabricated much of the interviewees’ claims and exaggerated working conditions at Foxconn.

    What concerns me, however, is that Schmitz is more concerned about discrediting Daisy than truly investigating Foxconn’s alleged abuses. I watched a compelling video about the abusive treatment of workers in Chinese clothing factory called: China Blue”, and it’s a well worth watching:

    http://video.pbs.org/video/1488092077/

    A disclaimer at the end of the video indicates Chinese authorities confiscated the most damaging footage, and this video was all that was left.

    Maybe working conditions at Foxconn are better than those depicted in China Blue. Then again, maybe not. My point is, as a foreign correspondent in Shanghai, perhaps Schmitz could get down to Foxconn himself and interview some real Chinese factory workers…Or is there something preventing him (as Daisy had claimed)?

    Although there is very little credibility left to Daisy’s story, I sense this is just the tip of the iceberg for working conditions at Foxconn. By debunking Daisy, we have not resolved the real question of working conditions in China’s industries.

    –kensensei

  2. stevetv
    March 18th, 2012 at 03:32 | #2

    Exactly, kensensei. Daisey’s story may not have been “subjectively” true, but this is China after all. They almost certainly “objectively” true. (The Foxconn explosion that killed several people last May due to poor ventilation and lack of safety precautions was certainly true.) But he put himself in the center of something he had no personal knowledge about. In a way, it’s like the Koney2012 campaign. It’s of interest to no one until you insert some deceptive humanization into the picture. It’s a weird new development of celebrity journalism.

  3. kensensei
    March 18th, 2012 at 04:39 | #3

    I guess we were all a bit to eager to believe Daisy’s story as what he said made sense to us; it seemingly had the ring of truth…
    Without attacking Apple directly, I think there are many foreign techno industries in China that turn a blind eye to the actual working conditions in their factories. I have never seen such a factory myself, but I think its time the world knew under what conditions these products are made. We deserve to know the truth before we make our purchase.

    So I feel Schmitz could have made a stronger case if he had followed through more thoroughly and interviewed some Chinese factory workers. Perhaps he was afraid of what he might uncover?

    –kensensei

  4. stevetv
    March 18th, 2012 at 05:20 | #4

    I’d doubt Western journalists are given much access to Chinese factory workers, which is why someone like Daisey is received as a godsend.

  5. JKR
    March 31st, 2012 at 14:06 | #5

    Even after being outed for lying, Daisey’s continuing “defense” for his intentional embellishment is disgusting and deserving of condemnation from journalists all over. This man sickens me to my core.

    Currently, in the face of facts that reveal liars for what they are, the only legal recourse to stop them from spouting their lies are to apply libel law (as in Britain), or by seeking monetary compensation in the court of law, a path I’d like to see Apple pursue.

    There are professional organizations that may sanction their members, take away licenses as a way to punish and stop bad behavior, but in essence, in Daisey’s profession, as long as he brings in audiences, he is free to spout whatever he wishes to as long as he isn’t sanctioned by fellow performers for outright plagiarism. Sad to say, in his career, Daisey obviously never have had to receive proper training or supervision in a meaningful way to understand what responsibility is about. And when faced with the ultimate test of individual integrity, the honest self-correction that needs to come after revelation of deception, Daisey failed miserably.

    Daisey is no longer a child. He is free to behave as badly as he wants to, but there needs to be a way to sanction individuals recalcitrant to correct themselves in the face of wrong doing, and currently the only methods are by either hitting his pocketbooks or vociferously voicing dismay at his actions.

    Researchers, doctors, monologists, are all afforded opportunity to practice their talents by recognition from others in form of research funds, patients, and audiences. It is a privilege that is accompanied with responsibility, and in Daisey’s actions I see him retaining his privilege in spite of having forsaken his responsibility, and for that, I’d like to see him punished as a model.

    The root of my indignation stems from his inability to admit he has lied and was wrong to do so. On press releases, he sounds like it, but go read his blog. He sees himself as some enlightened being that’s bringing manna to the masses:

    “If people want to use me as an excuse to return to denialism about the state of our manufacturing, about the shape of our world, they are doing that to themselves.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/i-will-not-go-silent-_-performer-mike-daisey-hits-back-at-critics-of-his-apple-monologue/2012/03/19/gIQAuGsnNS_story.html

    Whether or not he is being obtuse is unclear. But he clearly justifies his lying by saying we have no choice but to listen to his lies and side with him, or else deny all humanity within us. His distortion and delusional self importance is amazing. I guess it comes with the territory of being a performer, but he cheapens other honest efforts at exposing the working conditions at Foxconn (NYT, SACOM (Hong Kong based)). End does not justify the means, truth telling take real courage, and we should applaud the ones who are deserving. It’s an incredibly lazy and scholarly corrupt attitude to think otherwise, and he does disservice to all potential whistle blowers.

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