Jump this link and watch the video of Lawrence O’Donnell interviewing a young woman named Katy Abram who asked a scathing question to Arlen Specter at a town hall meeting. Her question was this:
I don’t believe this is just about health care, it’s not about TARP, it’s not about left and right. This is about the systematic dismantling of this country. I am only 35 years old, I have never been interested in politics, you have awakened the sleeping giant. We are tired of this. This is why everyone in this room is so ticked off. I don’t want this country turning into Russia, turning into a socialized country. My question for you is, what are you going to do to restore this country?
If you watch the interview with O’Donnell, you come away with the impression that this woman is not some hardened right-winger, that she’s not some ideologue, nor that she is unintelligent. What you do come away with is the understanding that this is a person who seems to have listened to the people who are trying to frighten her, and it has worked–and that she looked no further to understand the issues she addresses at the town hall meeting, else she would understand how embarrassingly uninformed she sounds.
She states as the primary issue the concern that America is being dismantled. On that, she is right; where she is wrong is who is dismantling it. She did not speak out while the Fourth Amendment was crassly violated and trashed, nor while the Supreme Court was stacked with those who showed clear disdain for the Ninth Amendment and wanted to warp the meaning of the First Amendment. She stood still while trillions were handed out to corporations and the wealthy at her expense, and while the Iraq War was falsely started, again at the cost of trillions of dollars she would be responsible in the form of debt. She remained faithful to her country during those times, and yet when a new president comes in and wants to reform health care so that she has more choice and it will cost her less, she immediately lost faith and believes that the Constitution is being dismantled and we are turning into Russia. There is little or no doubt that she watches Fox News.
She fears that her country is “turning into Russia,” turning into a socialist or communist state. Presumably this is because she fears that we will be forced to all participate in a single-payer socialized health care system, apparently unaware that many elements of our society are “socialized” and she likely does not object to them–does she opposed publicly funded fire departments? Police protection? National defense? Medicare? Social security? She simply does not understand that social insurance programs are not what defines a “country like Russia,” and that her fuzzy half-remembering of Obama allegedly saying he wanted a single-payer health system many years ago is not equal to the specific legislation now before Congress. She speaks so kindly yet so painfully without real understanding about how the founders didn’t want socialism and felt that those who had wealth would help those without, not seeing that she has become the spokesperson for those with immense wealth who have savaged the poor and the middle class and want to keep on doing it.
She sees things “pushed through very quickly,” and yet had no trouble with the “Patriot” Act or with the trillions-dollar tax cuts for the rich, which were pushed through just as quickly or even more quickly. She apparently had no trouble with the Iraq War, which was devastating in terms of costs in more than just a monetary way. She claimed only to “have faith in the government,” and she “didn’t really care.” But now she’s all furious and scared?
The poor young woman even admits that she doesn’t know the issues too well, she doesn’t know even what her own income is or how these policies would truly affect her, that she is not very politically aware. She doesn’t even seem to understand what Medicare is.
She comes across as a very sweet, caring, concerned person, cutting a very sympathetic figure–but also a person who has little or no understanding of what she is talking about. One gets the very strong impression that if she were to take the time to study, to come to actually know the issues, to understand the history, and see the situation for what it is, she would probably be completely in favor of the current health reform package.
Hopefully, this incident will not hurt her emotionally to the extent where she will withdraw from the issues, nor will it drive her easily into the arms of the mobs she is already associated with, who will offer her emotional support because she is aligned with their cause, but no truth or real understanding. Hopefully she will react to this the same way I reacted to my first scathing, embarrassing social drubbing upon my own entrance into public debate, and react instead by a strong desire to research, fully understand the facts, and re-enter the debate more informed, no matter which side she eventually comes out on.
But what good she has done is to shine a light on why so many sympathetic, well-meaning Americans are so completely wrong on the issues: because they don’t know the situation very well, are so easily gulled by those who would blatantly misinform them, and just don’t seem to have the built-in capacity–or, at least, the time and necessary resources–to strike out independently and inform themselves.
Hers is a movement which depends on people like that, which depends upon people being uninformed and scared to death. It uses people like her. She is not her own person, because she depends on others to handle things like knowing the facts. She simply trusts what others say, and works from that. And, like so many millions of Americans, she is being used against her own best interests, against the interests of her children.
Knowledge is power. Without knowledge, one becomes used.
Update: In the comments, a visitor pointed out the DailyKos story in which it was found that Ms. Abram has been a member of meetup.com since 2006 and lists group interests as being “Conservatives” and “Glenn Beck.” While this sounds like she’s been into both those categories since 2006, it could also mean that she’s just been a member of the service since 2006 and added those specific interests only recently. The fact that she scrubbed the interests from her meetup page suggests that she didn’t want these things to be known, but doesn’t necessarily mean that she was lying previously; she may just want to avoid being dismissed as an ultra-partisan.
For me, this primarily just confirms one thing that I even predicted in the main post: that the TV channel kept on in her home is Fox “News.” That she’s a Glenn Beck fan is even more revealing, as he is the nexus of insanity on that network. It doesn’t mean that Ms. Abram wasn’t gulled or that she’s somehow a bad person–but on my humble opinion, anyone who is a Glenn Beck fan is more than likely not an innocent sheep, and not someone who will try to become an informed person as I had hoped. The likelihood is that she is and always has been strongly partisan, only finding enough fear to protest as of late.
My bet is that her claim about not being “politically aware” before Obama came to office simply meant that she has always been strongly conservative and cheered Bush on in everything he did–and then, like many other tea-baggers, she started to see the End of the World when Obama got elected, and simply absorbed all the bozo rays Beck gives off.
Maybe she’s still a nice person when politics is not involved, but my estimation of her in general has now dropped a great deal. Anyone who likes Glenn Beck is not a person to be admired.